newLISP Fan Club

That's great news! 

Quote from: rickyboy on June 24, 2016, 10:55:52 AMAgain, you should be banned from this forum.

They've been banned, along with most/all of the other spammers.

Cool set of utilities! Also yeah as you seem to have discovered @ralph.ronnquist this forum has an @mentions feature

Quote from: itistoday on May 22, 2023, 05:25:31 PM(EDIT: I will be surprised if it does, because it's a completely different IP from the IP that Gmail sees for the mail server.)

Indeed it doesn't seem to have helped. But I guess it was worth a try. 

Ah I see what you're saying!

OK, so yes, as I mentioned the rDNS for the mail server is correctly setup to point to the mail server's domain.

However the rDNS for the machine hosting this website doesn't currently point to anything as you pointed out. So yes that's something I can fix - just did that. I don't know how long it takes to propagate, but hopefully should be showing newlispfanclub.com soon. We'll see if that helps with @gmail.com. (EDIT: I will be surprised if it does, because it's a completely different IP from the IP that Gmail sees for the mail server.)

Still, it's very common for one machine to host dozens of domains, and per-machine the rDNS can only point to one of those domains. So this isn't something Google should be checking for when handling email.

Proper spam prevention should not rely on such things IMO, but rather they should use machine learning / deep learning to classify messages. I'm honestly surprised and disappointed that we don't have a good open source solution to this yet.

Quote from: ralph.ronnquist on May 22, 2023, 04:54:09 PMAnd for that I believe it would be good getting the rDNS sorted for newlispfanclub.com.

The only way to do that would be to setup a dedicated email server for newlispfanclub.com, which I'm not going to do because it would be setting a terrible example for how people should react to Google's bullying.

Instead, we've explained the situation in the registration text for newcomers while sharing Gmail alternatives. I'm doing this on the forums for my small business as well.

Hmm. Well, I self-host email for multiple domains. This is perfectly normal.

If Google for some inexplicable reason wants people to host an entire mail server for each domain they own, they should consider how bad for the environment that would be.

The whole concept of having a reputational history is also rather dystopic. How are people supposed to spin up new mail servers? EDIT: maybe it wouldn't be so bad if all new mail servers started with a perfect reputation.

I thought Google engineers were supposed to be smart? I'm sure, if they want to "not be evil", they can figure out how to handle spam without destroying the fabric of the Internet.

In the meantime these providers manage it just fine, and without spying on their customers:

- https://tutanota.com
- https://www.startmail.com
- https://lavabit.com
- https://protonmail.com
- https://www.fastmail.com

Yeah the reverse IP is based on the mail server which is a different machine and domain.

Alas, even our reverse IP is setup correctly. Results from check-auth@verifier.port25.com:

==========================================================
Summary of Results
==========================================================
SPF check:          pass
"iprev" check:      pass
DKIM check:         pass

It is just Google being Google, trying to destroy the Internet's decentralization.

Thanks joejoe!

Well, Ryon did answer and now we have a new forum. 

Hi guys!

As most of you are aware, no one has heard from Lutz in a while, and the old forums were in a state of disarray (outdated software, no HTTPS, spam, etc.). So I offered to help, and Ryon graciously agreed to help with the transfer.

Welcome to the new forums!

No one knows what the future holds for Lutz' amazing programming language, but it's becoming clear that its future is in the hands of the community now. So if you'd like to step up and help improve newLISP, here you'll find a welcoming community to help.

Regarding the forum migration - the importer was good but not perfect. Some links are kinda broken. Your profile info might need updating. If there's anything you'd like to make sure got imported, please check the old forums and repost your work here if necessary.

Notes on how to convert links you come across:

Converting links

Let's say you're browsing and see a link that looks like this:

http://newlispfanclub.alh.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2488

Take the value after `t` and convert it like so:

=> https://newlispfanclub.com/index.php?topic=2488.0

Same here, just ignore the `f` parameter:

http://www.newlispfanclub.alh.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=3961

=> https://newlispfanclub.com/index.php?topic=3961.0

Post links

Links to individual posts within a thread are a bit harder because phpBB excludes the topic ID from the URL:

http://www.newlispfanclub.alh.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=25186#p25186

But if you happen to know it, this is how they're mapped:

=> https://newlispfanclub.com/index.php?topic=5229.msg25186#msg25186

Need anything?

Any questions/comments/concerns? Let us know!

You can find the latest version of Dragonfly here:

- https://github.com/taoeffect/dragonfly-newlisp/
- https://github.com/taoeffect/dragonfly-db

I tried to get in contact with Lutz, here, by email, by Facebook, and haven't heard back from him.



I don't know who hosts these forums, but they are clearly in a sorry shape.



I'd like to offer to help migrate these forums to better software, with better spam protection, and HTTPS.



Qualifications:



I have experience hosting forums: https://www.taoeffect.com/forum/">https://www.taoeffect.com/forum/



I have a long history of being a newLISP fan:



- https://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2010/01/how-newlisp-took-my-breath-and-syntax-away/">https://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2010/01/ ... ntax-away/">https://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2010/01/how-newlisp-took-my-breath-and-syntax-away/

- Co-created the Dragonfly newLISP Web Framework, which has a dedicated forum here: http://www.newlispfanclub.alh.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=17">http://www.newlispfanclub.alh.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=17



If whoever runs these forums could please reach out to me both here and via email, I'd appreciate it.

Hi folks, I've released a new module for the Dragonfly framework to handle sending email using the wonderful `msmtp` command, allowing Dragonfly to send SMTPS emails, and it uses the exact same API as the existing smtpx.lsp API:



https://github.com/taoeffect/dragonfly-newlisp/blob/master/example-site/dragonfly-framework/plugins-inactive/msmtp.lsp">https://github.com/taoeffect/dragonfly- ... /msmtp.lsp">https://github.com/taoeffect/dragonfly-newlisp/blob/master/example-site/dragonfly-framework/plugins-inactive/msmtp.lsp



It also has improved logging for the `./newlispServer` command, which now `tail -F`'s the dragonfly.log file so you can see log output just from running that one command.



Note, these changes are in the `master` branch, not in a tagged version.



Enjoy!