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Forum => Anything else we might add? => Topic started by: Fanda on November 27, 2005, 11:30:16 AM

Title: Swarm in newLISP
Post by: Fanda on November 27, 2005, 11:30:16 AM
I am playing with the simulation of swarm.



You can find it here as a file swarm.lsp:

http://www.volny.cz/fsodomka/newlisp/



Enjoy, Fanda
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Post by: newdep on November 27, 2005, 12:09:32 PM
Thats a dammmmm nice one !
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Post by: Lutz on November 27, 2005, 12:42:25 PM
Fantastic, beautiful!



Lutz
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Post by: Fanda on November 27, 2005, 12:55:01 PM
Feel free to change parameters to see what it does. It's really addicting :-)



Fanda
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Post by: pjot on November 28, 2005, 02:07:03 AM
Very cool!



Peter
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Post by: Lutz on November 29, 2005, 06:30:45 AM
Here is a simple program to run Fanda's swarm.lsp and inversi.lsp without newlisp-tk just using the concole app newlisp and a Tcl/Tk installation: http://newlisp.org/index.cgi?page=Tk_and_newLISP



Lutz
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Post by: Fanda on November 29, 2005, 12:26:32 PM
Unfortunately, 'peek' is only available on UNIX like operating systems =>

(while (= (peek myin) 0))

will not work on Windows.



Just wanted to let you know...



Fanda
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Post by: Lutz on November 29, 2005, 12:38:15 PM
Oops, I forgot, thanks for letting me know, on Win32 you still got to do: newlisp-tk swarm.lsp .



Lutz
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Post by: Dmi on November 29, 2005, 02:45:03 PM
Just checked. Cool thing!
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Post by: Fanda on November 30, 2005, 11:56:20 PM
Hello!

I have been trying to make it work on Windows.



Some scripts run just fine, when I comment the line:

(while (= (peek myin) 0))



I added error checking and divided (write-line ...) into 2 lines. Inversi doesn't want to run, if I write (write-line ...) on 1 line only. (I don't know why.)
; tk function to pass commands to Tcl/Tk
(define (tk)
  (write-line (append "if { [catch { puts [" (apply string (args)) "] }] } { " [text] tk_messageBox -message "$errorInfo"; exit }
    [/text]) myout)
  (read-line myin))
(global 'tk)


I also tried some tests for tk function:
; call inside the call
(tk "tk_messageBox -type ok -message {You clicked '" (tk "tk_messageBox -type yesno -message {Click on something :-)}") "'!}")

; catches error correctly:
;(tk "set x [expr {1 +}]")

; it doesn't catch bad brackets -> freezes up afterwards!
;(tk "set x {whatever here")


With this tk function both Inversi and Swarm run fine on Windows.



Fanda
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Post by: Lutz on December 01, 2005, 02:16:43 AM
You may check if the the 'read-line' on a pipe in Windows blocks or not when no data is available. On Unix 'read-line' will not block but return a 'nil'. This is why the (peek myin) comes in handy.



If 'read-line' doesn't block on Windows either, you might just put (sleep ..) statements before reading to make sure data is available. Perhaps splitting the 'write-line' changes the timing.



Or, if it blocks, make sure there is always data to read ready from the TclTk side. If no data is available and it blocks, newLISP would sit in the 'read-line' and freeze.



I will try your new (tk ..) function with error checking when I get to a Windows machine and incorporate it into nl-tcltk.





Lutz
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Post by: Fanda on December 01, 2005, 11:14:53 AM
- I believe that 'read-line' on Windows blocks when no data is available. I think, we can prove it using "call inside the call" - without 'peek' on Unix it should return "You clicked 'nil'". (Could anybody try it on Unix without 'peek', please?)

On Windows it waits and says correctly 'yes' or 'no'.



- We could write 2 versions of tk function:

if OS is Unix -> tk with 'peek' - else - tk without it



- My guess when splitting the 'write-line' to 2 lines was that Tcl needs some spaces or end of line characters to correctly process the command(s).



- The 3rd tk test of catching the bad brackets freezes up because Tcl can't process the command correctly - it's missing the brackets, but will not throw an error because there is no clear beginning and the end of commands (including catch and puts).



- I would like to add a constant to nl-tcltk
; constant to differentiate between newlisp-tk and this wrapper
(constant (global 'NL-TCLTK) true)

It's useful when exiting the script

nelisp-tk -> deiconify '.'

wrapper -> exit wish and exit newlisp



Fanda
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Post by: Lutz on December 01, 2005, 11:27:10 AM
On UNIX/OSX:



get first dialog box "click on something",

click 'yes' which brings a second dialog box "you clicked on 'yes'",

click 'ok' which returns "ok" in newLISP.



Lutz
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Post by: Lutz on December 01, 2005, 11:32:03 AM
But I am not sure if it will always work? becuase I have put in the (peek ..) because I had instances where it would go into read-line to fast and return 'nil' before a string had arrived.



Lutz
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Post by: Fanda on December 01, 2005, 11:36:14 AM
Cool, it means that this can be used as a test if 'read-line' blocks or not.



Fanda
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Post by: Lutz on December 01, 2005, 11:37:59 AM
.. and it also runs fine Demo.lsp, Hanoi.lsp, Turtle.lsp and Random.lsp. Have not figured out yet why it doesn't run Mouse.lsp after color change, but now with your new 'tk' I get at least ans error message box and it wouldn't run on the old 'tk' either.



Lutz
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Post by: Fanda on December 04, 2005, 09:47:37 PM
There is a new version 0.07:

- it doesn't show an error when closing the window (=> it's a little bit slower than 0.06)

- window has a different size in x and y (MX MY) and can be resized!

- Tk code clean up

- can be run by both newlisp-tk and Tk wrapper (exits correctly)



Visually it's pretty much the same...



Fanda
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Post by: newdep on December 30, 2005, 02:20:28 PM
http://experimentarte.org/processing/swirling%20v1/
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Post by: Fanda on January 05, 2006, 12:20:22 PM
Mandelbrot Set + Swarm = MandelSwarm:

http://www.ventrella.com/Tweaks/MandelTweaks/MandelSwarm/MandelSwarm.html



Fanda