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newLISP Fan Club

Forum => newLISP newS => Topic started by: Ryon on October 12, 2009, 09:48:22 AM

Title: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 12, 2009, 09:48:22 AM
The nLFC is upgrading its software, and moving to a new web host.



The new address will be http://newlispfanclub.alh.net. There will be a redirect from the old address so we shouldn't lose anybody in the change. We expect to be down for a small amount of time while the database is being transferred, and during DNS propagation.



Please bear with us while these changes take place. With any luck, this should be fairly quick and painless. Our email, in case there's trouble: newlispfanclub@alh.net



Ryon
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: newdep on October 14, 2009, 10:57:36 PM
Looks good ;-)
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Tim Johnson on October 15, 2009, 08:32:42 AM
I had to click on a picture to get here.

Which one is Lutz in that picture?

Who else in the Newlisp community is there?

thanks

tim
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: m35 on October 15, 2009, 09:22:02 AM
What's the new RSS feed link?



Also the newLisp General Discussion forum shows there are new posts, but mocks me with
Quote from: "The board that hates me"You do not have the required permissions to read topics within this forum.

:(
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: cormullion on October 15, 2009, 09:24:09 AM
Looking great!



If you wanted a suggestion, it would be to change the top forum name to "Announcements", so that all general questions and chat automatically goes into the "General discussion" forum.



Thanks again for keeping this forum going so well!



Edit: It says I don't have permission to view topics on the "General discussion" forum...
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Kazimir Majorinc on October 15, 2009, 10:33:35 AM
Yes, looks good and especially starting pic.  Is it for real?



(//%3C/s%3E%3CURL%20url=%22http://newlispfanclub.ryon.webfactional.com/2229623060055342364fQvqaf_fs_2_700_75.jpg%22%3E%3CLINK_TEXT%20text=%22http://newlispfanclub.ryon.webfactional%20...%20700_75.jpg%22%3Ehttp://newlispfanclub.ryon.webfactional.com/2229623060055342364fQvqaf_fs_2_700_75.jpg%3C/LINK_TEXT%3E%3C/URL%3E%3Ce%3E)
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 15, 2009, 10:41:26 AM
The rehersal went pretty well, but the actual move was not so easy. Sorry we were down for so long! I'm still dealing with some details, as you can see. Hope the permissions are under control now. Let me know if anything else needs attention. Who are those people in the picture? Maybe we could start a contest in the Anything Else forum, to guess who is who. Is that Majorinc peeking at us in the lower left? Oh, the RSS? I'll get right on it...
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Tim Johnson on October 15, 2009, 10:52:15 AM
Looking good. I can now get into the other forums.

But forum is still not remembering my login/password.

It doesn't look like cookies are being set.

Also, I can't see how to subscribe.......

thanks

tim
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 15, 2009, 11:26:19 AM
I sure don't like to hear that, Tim! I checked your account, and it seems good. There's nothing wrong with the cookies that I can see. Let me think on this (and let me know if I take too long).



The new account registrations are turned off, until this thing is working right.
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: HPW on October 15, 2009, 11:59:46 AM
QuoteBut forum is still not remembering my login/password.


For me too!
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 15, 2009, 12:13:17 PM
Okay, I've found the cookie problem. Let's see if I've fixed it?
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Tim Johnson on October 15, 2009, 04:06:27 PM
Sorry Ryon.

Still isn't setting bookmarks for me on Firefox 3.0.14 on Kubuntu Linux 8.04.

thanks

tim
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 15, 2009, 05:51:29 PM
Tim and HPW, this site is being served with a temporary URL. The URL will be changing soon to newlispfanclub.alh.net, and any of today's bookmarks will be invalid. Do you have enough functionality to hold out for a few days until we get the domain transferred?
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 15, 2009, 05:54:44 PM
M35, I just took a look at the mods to add an RSS feed to this board, and I don't want to tackle them until after the domain name is transferred. Is that okay?
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 15, 2009, 05:58:43 PM
If anyone would like to read this forum on their handhelds, go to the User Control Panel, Board Preferences, and choose "mTheme".



Hope you like it!
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Lutz on October 15, 2009, 06:29:52 PM
mTheme works but the problem with the mTheme is, it is tied to your username, not the device you are using. So once you set the mTheme its fine on your mobile phone but not good on your browser at home.



For http://www.newlisp.org I do the following in template.html (newlisp-wiki-x.x.x):


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<%
(if (find "iPhone" (env "HTTP_USER_AGENT") 1)
        (set 'CSSpage "pages/Default_Style_iPhone")
        (set 'CSSpage "pages/Default_Style"))
...
...
%>


Other sites have a m-prefix/subdomain before the main domain-name serving a different style-sheet, e.g:



http://m.twitter.com/

http://m.facebook.com/

http://en.m.wikipedia.com/



Which is probably better then my solution, because it works for any mobile phone not only the iPhone. I wonder if it would be too complicated to run a



http://m.newlispfanclub.alh.net ?



automatically loading the mTheme as default?



Ps: I love the little dragonfly with the flag, is that your creation?
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Tim Johnson on October 15, 2009, 06:37:28 PM
Quote from: "Ryon"Tim and HPW, this site is being served with a temporary URL. The URL will be changing soon to newlispfanclub.alh.net, and any of today's bookmarks will be invalid. Do you have enough functionality to hold out for a few days until we get the domain transferred?

Not a problem. I haven't used bookmarks before, just tried that functionality to see if that meant the

same as subscribe. Obviously it doesn't. Subscription features are really great for forums.

thanks

tim
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 15, 2009, 07:01:05 PM
I'll look into the "m" fourth-level domain or other solution, Lutz.



Wish I could claim the little dragonfly! I "adapted" him from somewhere else.
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: HPW on October 15, 2009, 10:18:42 PM
QuoteOkay, I've found the cookie problem. Let's see if I've fixed it?


Works for me now. Thanks.
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: HPW on October 15, 2009, 10:23:02 PM
Why does 'newLISP GUIserver' + 'newLISp for WIN' + 'newLISP for *n?x' show the 'forum locked' icon?

I can enter them, but get no 'new topic' button!
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Kirill on October 16, 2009, 03:54:59 AM
Quote from: "HPW"Why does 'newLISP GUIserver' + 'newLISp for WIN' + 'newLISP for *n?x' show the 'forum locked' icon?

I can enter them, but get no 'new topic' button!


They're archives of posts until October 2009. New posts shall be made other places: newLISP Graphics instead of newLISP Guiserver and newLISP and the O.S. for OS-related things.



-- Kirill
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Tim Johnson on October 16, 2009, 08:20:11 AM
Quote from: "Ryon"Okay, I've found the cookie problem. Let's see if I've fixed it?

Yes. It is now working for me.

Thanks

tim
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: m35 on October 16, 2009, 11:49:02 AM
Quote from: "Ryon"M35, I just took a look at the mods to add an RSS feed to this board, and I don't want to tackle them until after the domain name is transferred. Is that okay?

Oh I thought this was the new domain. No rush. Whenever things are settled it will be nice to have.



Now about the logging in process... ;)



Can we get a login on the index page, and skip the "You are successfully logged in" page after that?
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: itistoday on October 21, 2009, 05:00:55 PM
Hey Ryon, I'm not getting any notifications of thread replies, will this be fixed or am I "doing it wrong"?
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 21, 2009, 06:11:50 PM
You mean email notifications? The domain hasn't been pointed to the new host yet. That will probably start tomorrow. Once it's propagated, I'll get the email working. Or, that's the plan at least!
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: itistoday on October 22, 2009, 02:57:01 PM
Quote from: "Ryon"You mean email notifications? The domain hasn't been pointed to the new host yet. That will probably start tomorrow. Once it's propagated, I'll get the email working. Or, that's the plan at least!


Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: newdep on October 23, 2009, 11:00:38 AM
[size=200]it moved ;-)[/size]
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 23, 2009, 03:19:22 PM
Woohoo! We made it!



I'll start making those promised improvements, and open the forum to new users soon. Right now, I'm going to celebrate this small success by not doing anything!
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: itistoday on October 24, 2009, 06:55:19 PM
BTW... there's the issue of "SEO suicide", which seems to have been committed with this switch.



Search Google for "newlisp" plus some topic and you'll find links to the old forum, which will all take you to 404 pages.



Perhaps this could be remedied with a simple redirect script? You might even be able to do it with some .htaccess magic (mod_rewrite), so long as the post IDs match.
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 25, 2009, 06:48:41 AM
Try it now, itistoday. Should work!



BTW, if you would like the nLFC to have better search ratings, how about putting a link on your webpage to our new web address, newlispfanclub.alh.net
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Tim Johnson on October 25, 2009, 08:47:33 AM
OK.

1) The forum is no longer setting a cookie on my firefox browser

2) Still no option to subscribe (email notification)

Or perhaps I'm not seeing it.

Please advise.

Maybe we need a forum written in Newlisp? :) Just kidding.

tim
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: itistoday on October 25, 2009, 10:12:18 AM
Quote from: "Ryon"Try it now, itistoday. Should work!


Hmm.. all the links I'm finding are still resulting in 404's:



http://www.alh.net/newlisp/phpbb/viewforum.php?f=5&start=50&topicdays=0

http://www.alh.net/newlisp/phpbb/search.php?search_author=itistoday&sid=f13d3b6533f19a92f271f4e8b7a17849

http://www.alh.net/newlisp/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=16513


QuoteBTW, if you would like the nLFC to have better search ratings, how about putting a link on your webpage to our new web address, newlispfanclub.alh.net


I've linked to it from our blog, but I don't think the Espionage page or the Tao Effect home page are places that make sense to put a link to these forums...
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 25, 2009, 11:12:05 AM
Tim, I'm still working on it. Actually no. Today's Sunday, and I'm goofing off! ;-)



I'm not sure if I can make redirects for individual posts, itistoday. If someone knows how to do this as in: 'Redirect 301 /newlisp/phpbb/index.php http://newlispfanclub.alh.net' in a .htaccess file, I'll plug it in! The good news is that the newlispfanclub.alh.net name gives us room to grow, and should be stable just about forever. Unless someone wants to buy the newlispfanclub.org or .net domain name for us. And if you do, you can still point it to my server.



I don't think the search engines much care where they get the links from, they just count the number that they find. We don't need many, but two or three more would be nice. I plan to have more links to the community from this page too, soon. (But not exactly today.)
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: itistoday on October 26, 2009, 04:57:02 PM
Quote from: "Ryon"I'm not sure if I can make redirects for individual posts, itistoday. If someone knows how to do this as in: 'Redirect 301 /newlisp/phpbb/index.php http://newlispfanclub.alh.net' in a .htaccess file, I'll plug it in! The good news is that the newlispfanclub.alh.net name gives us room to grow, and should be stable just about forever. Unless someone wants to buy the newlispfanclub.org or .net domain name for us. And if you do, you can still point it to my server.


This would be done through mod_rewrite not Redirect (which is mod_alias).



You simply have a rewrite rule that uses regular expressions to extract the id numbers from the requested URL and then redirect the user to the other URL.


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<IfModule mod_rewrite.c>
RewriteEngine on
RewriteBase /

RewriteRule /viewtopic.php?t=([0-9]+) http://newlispfanclub.alh.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=$1 [R=301,L,QSA]
</IfModule>

Note, that is probably not at all what it should be (I just made that up off the top of my head), but that's something like it.



More info on mod_rewrite:



Examples: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html

Details: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_rewrite.html
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Tim Johnson on October 29, 2009, 08:56:09 AM
Looks like cookies are being set now. Thanks Ryon. I know this has

been a lot of work. I hope you are paid well. I also see that there is a

"notify me" option default to on.

Good work!

tim
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: Ryon on October 29, 2009, 02:32:53 PM
I did make a lot of promises during the past couple of weeks. Hope I'm catching up on a few of them!
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: tomtoo on November 02, 2009, 11:38:16 AM
hey ryon,



I did finally remember my own address, but when the forum sent me a new password, I never received it.



really, it's ok; this username is fine.
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: itistoday on November 11, 2009, 05:26:24 PM
Quote from: "Ryon"I did make a lot of promises during the past couple of weeks. Hope I'm catching up on a few of them!


Thread-reply notifications still don't work for me, is this not yet fixed or is it just me?
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: hilti on November 12, 2009, 02:20:37 AM
It's the same issue to me. Unfortunately there's no RSS feed, too.



Maybe we should build a newLISP/Dragonfly based forum. ;-)



Cheers

Hilti
Title: Re: newLISP Fan Club is Moving!
Post by: m35 on November 12, 2009, 08:59:32 AM
Since the 3 things I really hoped to see in the forum (RSS, login on front page, skip 'you are logged in' page) weren't implemented, along with no reply notifications, I figured Ryon was still in the process of setting things up.



Any status updates Ryon? :)
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