newLISP Fan Club

Quote from: ralph.ronnquist on May 22, 2023, 04:54:09 PMAnd for that I believe it would be good getting the rDNS sorted for newlispfanclub.com.

The only way to do that would be to setup a dedicated email server for newlispfanclub.com, which I'm not going to do because it would be setting a terrible example for how people should react to Google's bullying.

Instead, we've explained the situation in the registration text for newcomers while sharing Gmail alternatives. I'm doing this on the forums for my small business as well.

Well, I'm not trying to support any of Google's business practices; just trying to assist in getting the forum emails delivered to @gmail.com addresses (especially since I happen to have one).

And for that I believe it would be good getting the rDNS sorted for newlispfanclub.com.

Hmm. Well, I self-host email for multiple domains. This is perfectly normal.

If Google for some inexplicable reason wants people to host an entire mail server for each domain they own, they should consider how bad for the environment that would be.

The whole concept of having a reputational history is also rather dystopic. How are people supposed to spin up new mail servers? EDIT: maybe it wouldn't be so bad if all new mail servers started with a perfect reputation.

I thought Google engineers were supposed to be smart? I'm sure, if they want to "not be evil", they can figure out how to handle spam without destroying the fabric of the Internet.

In the meantime these providers manage it just fine, and without spying on their customers:

- https://tutanota.com
- https://www.startmail.com
- https://lavabit.com
- https://protonmail.com
- https://www.fastmail.com

Yes, the MTA setup would be fine, but afaik gmail will want the original sender (newlispfanclub.com) to have rDNS set up (as well), especially for resolvable hosts "without history".

Yeah the reverse IP is based on the mail server which is a different machine and domain.

Ah; I looked up rDNS for 168.235.93.184 and got 168-235-93-184.cloud.ramnode.com rather than newlispfanclub.com, which would be the origin of an email.

Alas, even our reverse IP is setup correctly. Results from check-auth@verifier.port25.com:

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Summary of Results
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SPF check:          pass
"iprev" check:      pass
DKIM check:         pass

It is just Google being Google, trying to destroy the Internet's decentralization.

This morning I got a blurb here about the pains of sending emails to addresses @gmail.com, detailing a bit about how finicky they, Google, are.

Whilst that is true, I've held this email address some 20 years mostly because their spam filtering has been quite outstanding. During that time I have set up some number of MTA (typically small and smallish ones), and like apparently this forum, come to realize both that in order to deliver to @gmail.com addresses all the "ducks" need to be in perfect order, and that getting attention and assistance by Google staff to figure out the "ducks" is near impossible.

This forum is close to perfect in its setup apart from lacking its reverse DNS setup, which I believe is one of the "ducks", i.e. one thing that @gmail.com is finicky about.

(And if it'd be of any help. I'm more than happy to be a trial target for MTA configuration trials.)

Thanks joejoe!

Thank you for porting the forum!

This is fantastic, and your work greatly appreciated itistoday!